Thursday, July 31, 2008

HHO = Hydrogen on demand proven results

Here are some proven results from the oldest and most reliable Hydrogen on demand system available.water4gas
We have a system built with their technology and have increased mileage by 50%

2008/07/08 01:48 - Peter P.

A friend installed this gizmo in my truck two months ago. After 30 seconds first start I noticed that the engine became soooo quiet. At first I thought the RPM went down because of the water, but no, the device has definitely changed the way my engine works - it does not ping anymore!

Another thing I noticed right away was that the absolutely terrible stink previously coming out of my exhaust has gone down dramatically.100% boost - 2007 Dodge 4.7 v8"

2008/07/08 01:35 - Tim D.

my 2007 Dodge 4.7 v8 Multi fuel got a 5 mile per gallon boost so far which is about 25%...Hope to see another 10% or more. Still tweaking the system.


*********** A day later Jan.5,2008, Tim wrote again: ***********


Well I was wrong on the Mileage. At 40MPH I got 26.5 MPG which is 77% higher than the manufactures listed 15 MPG Sticker. Still tweaking the system and hope to break the 30 MPG barrier soon.

If you are running any type of Hydrogen on demand system we would love to here from you.
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Supplemental hydrogen and how it can work for you


With the negative changes in the economy and rapid increase of gasoline prices the use of a supplemental hydrogen system in your vehicle can greatly increase the fuel economy. Other benefits of using such a system include an increase in horsepower and a great reduction in harmful pollutants and emissions that damage our environment and shorten the life of your engine.

WHY does it work?

A supplemental hydrogen system is just that, supplemental to the use of gasoline in your vehicle. Use of a system is not an attempt to run your vehicle on hydroxy gas exclusively. Instead, it is a way to more efficiently burn the gasoline that you are already using. How? By more fully atomizing the gasoline molecules and burning them as a vapor instead of the larger droplets they would normally be.

You’re probably wondering why the combustion process wouldn’t already be efficient since it was designed by top engineers at auto manufacturers, and why supplemental hydrogen isn’t incorporated into our vehicles today. The answer is found in a question…When a new vehicle is designed, who is it designed for? EVERYONE. When new cars are made, they have to be marketable not just on the basis of fuel economy, but also on the basis of horsepower, torque, and user intervention. So you might be seeking the highest MPG rating while someone else will see horsepower as a major buying factor. Even the person seeking highest MPG might not purchase a supplemental hydrogen vehicle if he/she would have to regularly check and refill not only the gasoline but also the water and electrolyte used to produce the hydroxy gas. This is where user intervention becomes a factor. You see? Every car design is a COMPROMISE. It has to be marketable to a large demographic of drivers.

So, by using a supplemental hydrogen system we are simply taking a vehicle that’s compromised and inefficient and bringing it up to a higher level of efficient combustion. This benefit can then be directed to either increased horsepower or better fuel economy, based on the user’s preference.

How does it work?

A supplemental hydrogen system consists of a fuel pre-heater assembly, an electrolyzer, and an ECU (vehicle computer) compensation method. When the system is used with fuel additives such as xylene and acetone, along with positive driving habits, it can produce dramatic results in fuel economy, sometimes over 50%. Horsepower is also drastically increased if the air/fuel ratio is not modified, because hydroxy gas is very combustable, much like nitrous oxide used in racing cars.

Fuel Pre-heater: A fuel preheater is a simple device, usually assembled of a heat conducting metal such as brass, copper, nickel or aluminum. It is placed on the radiator hose of the vehicle and wrapped in a thermal blanket. It uses otherwise wasted heat to preheat the gasoline before it reaches the fuel injection manifold or carburetor. This helps expand the dense gasoline molecules, making them closer to full vaporization temperature by the time the fuel reaches the combustion chamber.

Electrolyzer: This is the heart of the system. An electrolyzer uses the process of electrolysis to change water into hydroxy gas. (hydrogen and oxygen gas) It consists of electrodes that produce hydroxy gas when submerged in water made conductive with electrolyte, such as potassium hydroxide. Electrical current from the vehicle’s battery is then applied. A substancial amount of hydroxy gas must be produced by an electrolyzer to make the combustion process more efficient. The standard of gas production is measured in liters per minute. (LPM) 1 LPM is considered baseline for a functional supplemental hydrogen electrolyzer. The hydroxy gas output of the electrolyzer is routed to the vehicle’s air intake and vacuum intake manifold. The smaller molecules of the hydroxy gas strike the larger pre-heated gasoline molecules, breaking down the covalent bonds even further and atomizing the gasoline, while adding a combustable catalyst.

ECU Compensation method: If an electrolyzer is used in a vehicle and nothing more is installed, little or no gains in combustion efficiency/MPG will be seen. This is because the ECU of the vehicle will detect more oxygen in the exhaust via the oxygen sensors. More oxygen in the exhaust usually tells the ECU your vehicle the fuel mixture is running lean, with too much air being mixed into it via the air intake. It then compensates by adding more gasoline to the mixture, and reducing the air induction, which defeats the gains of the supplemental hydrogen system. The combustion of hydroxy gas produces a large increase in oxygen in the exhaust, therefore to see gains you must compensate for this. Compensation methods currently being employed are:

1.E.F.I.E. electronic fuel injection enhancer: This device manipulates the voltages relayed to the ECU via the oxygen sensors. By telling the ECU the fuel mixture is rich, it will tell the fuel injectors to inject less gasoline and use more hydroxy. It can be purchased online by numerous retailers, or you can build your own.

2.MAP/MAF sensor enhancer: this device manipulates the voltages being sent to the ECU from the MAP or MAF sensor, effectively controlling the air/fuel ratio.

3.Oxygen sensor offset sleeves/wrapping in aluminum foil. These 2 methods of O2 sensor tweaking effectively reduce some of the sensor’s ability to detect oxygen, effectively leaning the air/fuel ratio.

Fuel Additives: Acetone and Xylene additives have been proven to increase fuel economy by breaking down the covalent bonds of the gasoline molecules, making them easier to atomize and ignite in the combustion process.

Emission/pollution reduction

Emissions and air pollution from your vehicle are greatly reduced while using supplemental hydrogen because more of your gasoline is being completely used up and not being burned in your catalytic converter. The biproduct of burning hydroxy gas is heated water vapor, which steam cleans the inside of your engine and removes damaging carbon build ups and performance robbing sludge. Using a supplemental hydrogen system helps the environment twice by decreasing fuel dependency while also reducing pollutants.


By using a properly installed supplemental hydrogen system the user and the environment will greatly benefit. All that’s needed is a small amount of user intervention by refilling the water and electrolyte of the electrolyzer based on individual use. If more people would employ this system we could effectively reduce dependency on foreign oil, while also preventing damage to our environment. Why not assemble and install a system of your own today?


Monday, July 21, 2008


We have been studying this subject for some time now and do have two working prototypes thanks to water4gas . Long before we installed these systems on our vehicles we did a lot of experimentation that convinced us that hydrogen or HHO (oxyhdrogen) was not that hard to produce. Almost anyone can create a few bubbles in a quart jar but you do need all the parts and working knowledge it takes to apply this simple technology to your auto.
After searching the Internet for "kits" that claim to produce Hydrogen on demand we went with water4gas because of their long term good reputation and the fact that they don't make claims of wild 70% - 80% unheard of (and unproven) gains in mileage per gallon of gas. Through our extensive research and experimentation we know these types of gains are something for the future, if it sounds too good to be true it is too good to be true.
All this being said, we do know for a fact that with the right hydrogen on demand "kit" installed correctly to your car or truck and some gas saving knowledge you will gain substantially.
We will have the actual mileage increase stats. from our two prototypes for you to check out soon.
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We would love to hear from anyone who has proven gains in gas mileage by applying an HHo / Hydrogen on demand system to their vehicle.